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Nox-Eternus
Whilst Floor is a very special world class singer , Nightwish have failed to release material that fully utilises her fantastic voice . End of an Era really was the last good material released by Nightwish.
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Marjansson24
I know it will not happen but I want a sympho electro metal album from them (a sympho metal combined with Rammstein sound)
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Marjansson24
Hell, I want them to experiment with industrial, synth (like Wish I had an Angel), doom, melo-death..hell I would want a song feat Alissa from Arch Enemy and one with Sabaton members, one with Apocalyptica, one with Shagrath or Till Lindemann or Mark Jansen
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DorianVonEden
Wishing Floor a swift recovery, and I hope her final few weeks of pregnancy are as restful, serene and uneventful as getting overworked to literal collapse by the band's insane touring schedule haven't allowed it to be so far! 💚
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Marjansson24
Best song during the short period with Tarja. Oh..she doesn't sing there. Ok..best one with female voice is The Poet And The Pendulum. Oh wait..no Tarja there either.
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carneiromanoel
Maybe I'll be thrown to the lions but for me DPP and Imaginaerum are the best albums of them. I really miss Anettes voice and I am constantly thinking how dirty everyone did to her. Not everything is a about vocal range.
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iSui
I agree that the situation was not handled well at all. Tuomas seems to lack some serious social skills. I mean... didn't he learn after Tarja that this isn't how things are done? I love albums, too. I think they are way better than EFMB (my least fav, except for The Greatest Show on Earth which is superior) even though I prefer Floor to Anette. Especially after having them seen with both of them live. Seeing Nightwish with floor was an EXPERIENCE, holy fuck! Seeing them with Anette was like "hm, she'd better just sing the songs written for her voice, she ruins Tarja's songs". I actually just heard Nemo love with Anette again on a radio station, it was HORRIBLE. I didn't remember it being that bad. But it's not her fault, that song was written for a classical voice. Still, for me it's Tarja+Floor>>>>>>>>Anette. She has a sweet voice which works for "her" albums but she doesn't compare to the other 2 (but then who does). I'm happy Floor & Anette seem to get along still.
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Cambionn
Nah. I'm super biased to the old stuff with Tarja simply because of Tarja's voice. She's definitely one of my favourite vocalists of all time. But I quite like DPP, and actually prefer the stuff with Annette over that with Floor. Not that that's Floor's fault, she is an amazing singer and I quite liked her in After Forever. And I do think that for the whole discography, she's the best choice for the band. But I'm just not a big fan of where Nightwish their song writing went after Imaginaerum. Annette was good. I think the issue was just the shock in how different it was from Tarja, and the struggle she had singing Tarja's songs. But the songs written for her where mainly awesome.
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Shevyy
Those are the favourite albums of mine, too! I do overall prefer Tarja on studio recordings and Floor live, but albums written for Anette somehow remain my most liked. That is, apart from Showtime, Storytime. Floor's live redemption of Anette's songs just took them to a whole otherworldly level and that one cannot be beaten, I think.
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fabrirocha
"Nightwish is more hyped than ever after Floor joined the band" lol. They didn't even got sold out with last tour. you can't be serious
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Marjansson24
Have you thought at the fact that MAYBE some Nightwish fans also love other 200+ bands alongside?? I mean, I love Nightwish but also Rammstein, Slipknot, Powerwolf, Iron Maiden, Parkway Drive, Metallica, Suede, Muse, Coldplay, Depeche Mode, Rob Zombie, Epica - all of them toured and tours AT THE SAME FREAKIN TIME. So it is not because of the band (THEY ARE WAY MORE AMAZING than the tarja period (not even an era) but because not enough money
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fabrirocha
eles tem uma fanbase fiel. isso ajuda muito eles conquistarem isso. esse album é o pior da carreira deles. digo isso amando a floor.
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fabrirocha
não adianta vc falar bonitinho achando que ta lacrando meu filho kkkkkkk fala sério. o que "endossa" meu ponto é que MUITA gente tbm não gostou dessa bomba. VTNC! Vai falar bonitinho na pqp
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fabrirocha
o meu comentário tem 5 curtidas, ou seja, tem pelo menos mais 5 pessoas que concordaram. quer dizer que o seu gosto tbm não é parametro pra nada kkkk se eles estivessem tao bem tinham esgotado em todas as cidades.
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fabrirocha
" Since Floor came to the band, Nightwish became waay more evolved than ever. " I think you are the only one delusional here lol. You may be talking about structure of the concerts, which is very understandable, since they got more rich with the time, as every band and artist with many years of career. But this kind of "evolving" doesn't mean they're better
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archbunburyist
tuomas holopainen may have big pretentious twat energy, but he's one of the few people on earth who actually is as much of a genius as he thinks he is
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Marjansson24
If it wasn't for Tuomas, Tarja would not have made it so huge. Tarja sucks at writing songs. And has even less creativity than Evanescence.
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Marjansson24
Fuck Tarja. She wasn't in Nightwish for 18 fkin years. I would rather want ICS Vortex to be brought. And an album with special guests like Simone Simons, Apocalyptica, Till Lindemann, Peter Tagtgren, Alissa White Gluz, Tomi Joutsen, Shagrath. Nightwish has the potential of being the most legendary metal band but lack the balls for that
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jorgeoyafuso
And yet all of them combined in a band they wouldn't be able to write songs like Tuomas does. So... that's senseless.
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DorianVonEden
So, according to interviews they're basically falling apart and only held together by the management, and in the meantime Tarja and Marko are singing together on stage? I swear, if the special guest they still have to announce is Anette, I'm going to cackle.
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DorianVonEden
Nordpolar, I'll grant you this: whether their music is good or not is subjective. Some might listen to their stealth Game of Thrones theme cover and be like, "Hmm, this is good" – more power to them. But other than that, is any of the instances I mentioned, upon which I built my "misguided" opinion, not factual? :)
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Nordpolar
I don't think so, but I'm also done arguing. Seen guys like you in other shoutboxes and in real life too. Some people just think their own view is absolute and any observation they make based on "facts" is the one and only truest of the true. Especially "Female Fronted Metal" seems to be vulnerable to intrusive have-been-fans who believe they got it all figured out. Keep it up, bye.
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DorianVonEden
I understand, though I believe the same discourse can be applied to current fans, too – except they think the key to figuring things out is their own feelings rather than facts. Which is fine, both methods are valid depending on the context, we agree to disagree. Though, a piece of advice: when you go with facts you get enjoy things more. Like, I am perfectly aware some of the stuff I listen to is utter trash; if you came to me and told me that, I'd be like, "Yup, I know, but it's MY trash". It's important to acknowledge the bad in what we like, rather than defending it blindly: enjoying it *despite* its flaws is a bigger show of love than just pretending everything's fine. :) Bye, and enjoy your music consciously!
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iSui
Just saw them last night. INCREDIBLE SHOW. So far I've only seen Tarja solo and Nightwish with Anette and sorry to say but the concert with Floor was 100x better than with Anette. Ok, to be fair... 15 years ago I think they didn't have all the effects they do now. But just Floor's voice and the whole atmosphere is just so different. Even though Marco & Jukka are still missing.
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SongsForBats
Nightwish is such an incredible band. Call it cliche but Tarja is still my favorite. Each singer has brought something special and unique to the band though!
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DANIEL0CAB
Agree with you. I prefer Tarjas era, even when I can listen the other two singers eras. But floor, I think NW is getting bored since she arrived to the band. And with the potencial she supposedly she has NW should sound better than ever.
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Marjansson24
I was replying to you saying Nightwish os getting bored. Example for getting bored is System of a Down. 15 years (i think) with no nea album... that is boredom. Nightwish is preparing for a new album plus the live dvd. I wish Rammstein (my favs) would be like that. To release live shows like NW. At least the germans are impossible to be defeated at best live shows
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fabrirocha
Floor is awesome but she didn't fit with Nightwish vibe. Also Tuomas has a lack o creativity which is pretty visible. Today Nightwish is only a shadow of what they once were. yes, the last album was horrible!
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DorianVonEden
Wishing Floor all the best: even though the news is terrible, I'm glad she's optimistic, her prognosis seems good, and her surgery went well! I'm hoping that the analysis results come back negative, and also that Tuomas won't fire her because she's sick, like he did Anette.
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DANIEL0CAB
How you know there has been tention during the tour? I mean where did you read about it?
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ultravioletghst
Anette talked about it in her old blog too. She said that she really tried to talk to them, she would ask them to do meetings to discuss the things that were happening but they never showed up. They'd just give her the silence treatment.
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Nordpolar
Honestly, that's a peculiar comment to make as an outsider. I wouldn't wanna judge the whole situation just by the bits we know from media - and the documentary has been very vague about it, also. What I do see though is the fact that Floor's tenure as lead vocalist in Nightwish lasts ten years in 2023, which means she even surpasses Tarja's era that lasted nine years. The whole band chemistry seems to be perfect right now and that's actually a huge difference compared to the Anette-years.
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